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Midnight Open G in Bb

Post by VikingBlues » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:44 am

I was playing around with Open G tuning today. Hadn't changed the Hagstrom from that tuning since Love in Vain. Out of a desire for a bit of bass and rhythm practice, which is needed badly, I accompanied a Lawrence Fritts Drums BT (Tenure Clock Blues - slightly speeded up) with the Hagstrom and the Hofner Violin Bass through the Vox Tonelab LE.

I then ended up putting some lead (Strat) and slide work (Hagstrom) on too - again through the Tonelab LE.

The drums + bass + rhythm BT is in the backing track section of the forum - called 'Midnight Open G in Bb'.

I'm sure it's possible to get a much better end product than mine (one paced and repetitive), which I've posted below. Anyone fancy a go with the BT and posting their recording here as a contrast - or anyone fancy a collab with it?

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Re: Midnight Open G in Bb

Post by MikeJackal » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:55 am

Way ahead of you there VB, I played for 7 hours yesterday and for a good 8 hours today, really loving to play at the moment what with this new support group and all.
So here is my take, I just went mental no holding back, as is my style with most things.
I listened through once then just did a take, might even have finished recording before you did!
Enjoy, great backing track too, right up my street.
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Re: Midnight Open G in Bb

Post by VikingBlues » Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:59 am

Hey Mike - nice one! :clap:

Liked the dynamic variatons - and energy. No holding back as you said - you do those cascades of tumbling notes very convincingly. :thumbsup:

Glad you liked the BT - my rhythm and bass playing skills (or lack of) are rusted to hell.

I think it fair to say we have two very contrasting recordings on this thread already! :yikes: Shows how much variety can be got from a basic 3 chords backing.
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Re: Midnight Open G in Bb

Post by 12bar » Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:57 pm

Great work from both of you - and totally different! WONDERFUL! :clap: :pray:

And thanks for the backing track! :thumbsup:

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Re: Midnight Open G in Bb

Post by Blindboy » Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:29 pm

Nice job from both of y'all!
I like to hear different interpretations of a piece of music. :thumbsup:
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Re: Midnight Open G in Bb

Post by oneeyedslide » Mon Jul 04, 2011 12:41 am

Two great takes on the same BT. And a great backing track! Like to see what others would do with it...

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Re: Midnight Open G in Bb

Post by vancouverois » Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:34 pm

Just a shy try, as always raw with all the mistakes :away:
Thanks for the backing track VB :thumbsup:

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Re: Midnight Open G in Bb

Post by VikingBlues » Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:24 am

vancouverois wrote:Just a shy try, as always raw with all the mistakes :away:
Thanks for the backing track VB :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: Well - I liked it, and found it hard to spot too many mistakes - the occasional mistake would suit the BT though - it has a few! It sounded to me that there were planned notes and a shape to your slide lead - that's way better than my "slide and hope" technique (which is why my slide is just used as a backing to the lead guitar - note to self to use open tuning more and get used to where the right notes are. :whistle:).

There's a clarity and ring to your notes that impresses me :clap: - which guitar / gear did you use?

Thanks for having a go on the BT - like Blindboy I like to hear different interpretations on a BT.
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Re: Midnight Open G in Bb

Post by vancouverois » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:53 am

Thanks VB :beer:

I used my Strat with the custom shop '69 pickups, on the bridge position.
The tonelab ST set up on US 2x12, I guess it's a blackface twin emulation.
A hint of delay and compression, plus a little bit of mild distortion to add
some "color" to the tone.
I didn't use any slide, just standard tuning and bends.

This set up used on neck + middle PUs sounds almost identical to the
Chris Isaac song "Wicked Games" intro part.

I really appreciate the slide part on your take, it adds some strengh/punch
to the song.
Jan 15th 2007

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Re: Midnight Open G in Bb

Post by oneeyedslide » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:45 pm

vancouverois wrote:I didn't use any slide, just standard tuning and bends.
Really nice!!
vancouverois wrote:I really appreciate the slide part on your take, it adds some strengh/punch
to the song.
Add my vote to that!!

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Re: Midnight Open G in Bb

Post by vancouverois » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:23 pm

Thanks, glad you like it Oneeyedslide :D

There is something I just noticed, during all my recording process I used headphones
for late night noise problems. This is a noname medium range headphones.

I just listened again to my part this afternoon, but this time by using the external
speakers and I can say that there is a big difference in tone between the two.
On my speakers it is way more trebly than what I could ear in the headphones.
It is a bit annoying to have a sound that is muffled and without dimension (or "air")
while recording and setting up the eq and effects.

Actually, I wonder if it is the headphones or the speakers to take as a reference :icon_whoknows:

Any ideas for a better headphones (brand and model)?

Thanks,
Jan 15th 2007

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Re: Midnight Open G in Bb

Post by VikingBlues » Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:54 pm

vancouverois wrote:I used my Strat with the custom shop '69 pickups, on the bridge position.
The tonelab ST set up on US 2x12, I guess it's a blackface twin emulation.
A hint of delay and compression, plus a little bit of mild distortion to add
some "color" to the tone.
I didn't use any slide, just standard tuning and bends.

This set up used on neck + middle PUs sounds almost identical to the
Chris Isaac song "Wicked Games" intro part.
Ooops - imagine my embarassment at thinking you were using slide. :shy: I'll just need to claim your bends were so good they sounded like slides, and the ringing tones did sound quite slide like ... honest! :big_smile:

Good work with the Tonelab ST. I think you're right about the blackface twin BTW.
vancouverois wrote:There is something I just noticed, during all my recording process I used headphones
for late night noise problems. This is a noname medium range headphones.

I just listened again to my part this afternoon, but this time by using the external
speakers and I can say that there is a big difference in tone between the two.
On my speakers it is way more trebly than what I could ear in the headphones.
It is a bit annoying to have a sound that is muffled and without dimension (or "air")
while recording and setting up the eq and effects.

Actually, I wonder if it is the headphones or the speakers to take as a reference :icon_whoknows:

Any ideas for a better headphones (brand and model)?
I have the same light night noise issue, and until recently was using a pair of pretty cheap headphones which were skewed to treble sound (opposite to your problem). The trouble was in having to guess how much the final product - CD though hi fi speakers would differ for eq (quite a lot different!) - and mix the sound accordingly. Eventually I couldn't stand it any more and got a better pair of headphones - more than twice the price BUT be warned they're by no means pro standard - my eldest son had a pair so I was able to try before buying and I knew they would do. Sennheiser HD 215 - not perfect, but they have reduced the difference to tolerable levels for the moment. :thumbsup:
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