Collab?

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Kalle
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Re: Collab?

Post by Kalle » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:48 pm

Hi Guys
I am interested to add a bass line in this collab.
Decide the chord structure and I could try to build bass line around the drumbeat.
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Re: Collab?

Post by velvetlicks » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:08 pm

Kalle wrote:Hi Guys
I am interested to add a bass line in this collab.
Decide the chord structure and I could try to build bass line around the drumbeat.
A simple Blues in G usually goes G|C|D (aka I IV V chords progression)... so just playing a Blues bass line in G would probably be a good idea :rofl:

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Re: Collab?

Post by Kalle » Sat Dec 13, 2014 2:35 pm

Hi guys
Added a typical 12 bar blues bass line in G to the drumbeat from velvetlicks.

Now you can add some guitar tracks in G..
Kalle
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TwelveEight-SlowBlues(70 BPM)-Drums and Bass.mp3 - (2.91 MiB)

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Re: Collab?

Post by MichaelRobinson » Sat Dec 13, 2014 3:58 pm

Firs.
Kalle. You realy have found the beat in bass playing. You start and stop the note exactly on the beat. Nice to hear.
Second
I will try to do something. Rythm and lead. Then the head of the collab can deside if it's worth anything or not. The master of this collab do realy deside what's OK and not. I will not push my self so it may take time before I have set all my gear and recorded this.
Third
How is head of this project ? Is it 12bar ?



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Re: Collab?

Post by MichaelRobinson » Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:03 pm

I tried to play the accompaniment but I would just complicate it, so it will be wrong. Someone else can take that part.

As far as I know is 12bar the head of this collab, but I''m not shure. 12bar, which I think holding it all, does not have distributed the time frame we have to play in as soloists. Where do we start and where do we stop?

I'm sending up this draft in the knowledge that it is not possible to divide it into pieces that timeframe means.

I know 12bar don't have time for this collab before x-mas.

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Re: Collab?

Post by 12bar » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:48 am

MichaelRobinson wrote:I know 12bar don't have time for this collab before x-mas.
That's right, plus I'm currently fighting against spam bots. So feel free to take the lead!

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Re: Collab?

Post by VikingBlues » Sun Dec 14, 2014 1:57 pm

Nice bass line Kalle - good foundation. :clap:

That works as a trio Michael I think. :thumbsup:
I did try and play around with a rhythm part to the trio version but it didn't work too well. I think there's a lot of counterpoint(?) going on in this and it doesn't quite lend itself to the basic I IV V chords. :icon_whoknows: Maybe someone else has the skills to do something here.

I can try and do a rhythm part to just Kalles Bass version and then if anyone wants to play around with lead lines or slide they can. I'm thinking of using a fair bit of 9th chords in the rhythm part for a bit of variety. No promises though - don't know if I'll find the sound and flow.
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Re: Collab?

Post by vancouverois » Sun Dec 14, 2014 11:31 pm

Good job Kalle! :clap:

A quick and dirty try at this drums track, it's the basic blues riff.
I don't think it fits that well the track, sounds like something is missing.
Anyway, I just played it once hence all the glitches and mistakes can be heard... :away:
Though It's in E, just an idea of how it sounds.

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12-8-SlowBlues(70 BPM)-Drums-Guitar_E_Chords.mp3 - (5.3 MiB)

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Re: Collab?

Post by VikingBlues » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:56 am

Just a very quick late night attempt - rough, no attempt at tone, and I think the guitars tuned slightly flat.

But in G - and bringing in some of those 9ths I mentioned. Dunno if it's worth pursuing? :icon_whoknows:



Need to get to my bed - I'll listen to the VC track properly later tomorrow night probably.
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12Bar Collab Dec14 Drums Bass VBRhythm.mp3 - (2.91 MiB)

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Re: Collab?

Post by MichaelRobinson » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:24 am

VikingBlues wrote:Just a very quick late night attempt - rough, no attempt at tone, and I think the guitars tuned slightly flat.

But in G - and bringing in some of those 9ths I mentioned. Dunno if it's worth pursuing? :icon_whoknows:

VB ...... I think you are right to put 9ths in rhythm. When I try to put my stuff in the rhythm wants fingers and head more than necessary and I miss a lot.
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Re: Collab?

Post by MichaelRobinson » Mon Dec 15, 2014 12:40 pm

12bar wrote:
MichaelRobinson wrote:I know 12bar don't have time for this collab before x-mas.
That's right, plus I'm currently fighting against spam bots. So feel free to take the lead!
12bar ................
I know you do not have time right now and accept it. I hope others do too but of course I can not guarantee.

I think that you continue to keep this project. To me it does not matter that it is not before Christmas. I also under pressure oh sressad this time of year.

They uploads I do, you can see that proposal. Do not take it too serious.

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Re: Collab?

Post by vancouverois » Mon Dec 15, 2014 7:14 pm

velvetlicks wrote: Don't worry, I swear I'll never post anymore on this forum! It's as much funny as it is (without me, indeed)
VL.
It is a pretty good thing to practice a rhythm guitar part on a drums track, thanks for your input in regards of this collab.
Though I have a question:
Are you Mr Dooley?
Don't get me wrong but the drums track proposal you mentioned to have personally played/recorded for the collab and then posted on the site - before removing all your posts - and the one in the link below sound the same and have the same duration....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHYFNKUQ2aA
DrumsTracks.jpg
Identical tracks from the beginning to the end
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Re: Collab?

Post by 12bar » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:08 pm

Thanks vancouverois, I hope we get an answer, otherwise I have to delete it (at least for the copyrights).

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Re: Collab?

Post by MichaelRobinson » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:30 am

I'm thinking.

It is probably prohibited by copyright grounds to pretend to be the drummer who played it.
Just wondering if it is prohibited to use the drum track if you write about who is the originator of it?

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Re: Collab?

Post by 12bar » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:06 am

First of all I want to know more about what happened. If it's not VL, we have to care for the copyright, and as long as it's not really public domain or self made, I don't want to use it. "Free" doesn't mean you can use it as you like.

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Re: Collab?

Post by VikingBlues » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:25 am

vancouverois wrote:A quick and dirty try at this drums track, it's the basic blues riff.
I don't think it fits that well the track, sounds like something is missing.
Anyway, I just played it once hence all the glitches and mistakes can be heard... :away:
Though It's in E, just an idea of how it sounds.

I think this is certainly more in the "accepted" blues style than my hybrid version. I'll admit I find it very difficult to judge the merits of a backing track with just drums, bass and rhythm - it often sounds pretty dull and then some good player puts a lead part down and it sounds great. If the lead player is good I have a feeling it can work in the interests of the whole project that the backing is straightforward. If teh lead player is "dodgy" (like me) then some extra colour in the backing helps to hide that.

Given the current situation on the drum track - well spotted VC! - I'm anticipating we'll not be able to use it, and you're quite right to abandon it if there's any doubt Gerd. I'll have a ferret around on my PC files and see if there's any drum only tracks that are OK to use - I'll also have a look on the internet and see if there's any that are available on a use however you wish basis.
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