A lot of that is to be expected initially while I develop dexterity - but I have the same problem typing. I type pretty fast but with a high error rate. I don't know if I developed bad typing habits early and never corrected them - or whether I have finger dyslexia and will never have the fine motor control to play well. I sure don't want to repeat any of the type of mistakes I may have developed while learning to type.
I've read various theories on overcoming this problem. One theory even recommends spending some practice time moving your fingers from position to position very, very, very slowly. Another recommends placing your fingers in the new position in a very specific order. Some recommend analyzing which fingers have to move how far and working from that perspective. Others recommend practice, practice and more practice.
Does anyone have good tips and techniques for developing (and/or improving) this skill?
I am probably wrestling with some of the same issues as you are. So I will be intrested in all tips and suggestions
I regularly find , especially when picking uop the guitar and not warming up that my right hand is out of synch with my left ...
I fret a note ( quite well !) and then play a different string , usulayy the one below the string I should be playing .......!! and that really naffs you orf!!
My guitar teacher always gets me to slow down until I do fret cleanly .....and empasises that speed is not so important until your build up to it slowly ...fretting cleanly at all times
Hence the metronome (which I hate !!).............and slowly cranking it up
I've just got a book of exercises
Ten Minute -Acoustic Guitar exercises by David Mead
and as well as some great basic info in Part 1 ."Everything you need to know !"
part 2 is a whole series of finger dexterity exercises in 6 batches (progressively getting more difficult) of 5 exercises .....designed to last for 2 mins each ......hence the 10 min workout.
each exercise is also classified with the number of reps you do in 2 mins .........classified as anything from a C- up to an A+ .when you are getting anywhere near A+ you move onto the next set .
It works for me because I really need some sort of route and targets .otherwise I just fiddle about ..my guitar learning discipline is rubbish tbh. I have more books than you can shake a stick at .and initially thought "Do I Really need this ??" and "am I not a bit past this ??" ...but its doing me well !!! and I'm not too proud to go back if it helps me move forwards .
I am still on the 2 sets of of exercises !!!! and still needa couple of beers to get to A+ in a few of 'em
Frankly they are as good for an electric as they are for acoustic .and already after 10 days or so of irregular use .my fingers are more dextrous and I am getting some digit independence ..........So i Think it is just a matter of practise practise practise.
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any more tips and suggestions ( nice ones please !!) appreciated
lyric from "Out in The Fields"
Gary Moore 1952-2011
Seriously though there are a million and one techniques for learning and i have to agree with the old school and say practice makes perfect. Guitar playing is mostly down to memory, remembering what notes go in what order and muscle memory, training the muscles in your arms and hands to get themselves into some pretty weird shapes. Just think of an E shape barre chord, when in gods name would you ever make your hands go to that position in the rest of your life.
I am the last person who should ever give advice on structured learning and practice so i won't, i'll just tell you what works for me, stick on a blues backing track (preferably a loop that can go on for hours) and keep playing until your hands hurt, spend more time in a specific box of the scale and find out what sounds good within it. Whatever you do, keep it fun and keep it fresh.
P.S. "Played it 'til my fingers bled, it was the summer of '69". Bryan Adams is a tit, if your hand hurts, stop until they don't.
"I'm So Lonesome I Don't Even Have Me No Friend, I've Done So Much Crying Will I Ever Laugh Again" - Peter Green
Actually Lynyrd77Skynyrd hit the nail on the head all the way around. Great advice.
Actually, it's really good news. If you said, "We don't have to practice. We are all naturally gifted and it all comes completely easy to us" - then I would really despair.
So it's back to picking up the guitar and trying a little harder for a little longer. I can see progress in my playing as time goes by so I'm not in the least discouraged. Thanks for all your input.
Strummer - I ordered the book from Amazon a few minutes ago. I was batching up so other stuff for an order so I included the book. I expect it will be a big help.
Well, go to the crossroads somewhere in Mississippi at midnight or dawn and sell your soul to the devil...MojoJim wrote:Well, you know, every time I ask a question on this forum the heart of the answer seems to be "practice, practice, practice". Don't you guys have an magic formulas for playing blues?
However, other problems may arise.
Practice IS the key.
I use this trick a lot. Hit a wrong note, recover, repeat it so it sounds like you meant it. There is a good example of this in my "Blues for Mikey" tune I posted up a while back (blowing off steam thread). Extra credit if you can spot it and tell me where it is.Lynyrd77Skynyrd wrote:If you play the wrong note 3 or 4 times people think you meant to do it and you're just jazz free-forming, little trick for you there :).
As the others said, practice a lot. Start slow and work up to speed. It is doable, just takes a while.
Gerd... you gave away the secret.
It's like running down a flight of stairs - all those months of learning to walk means we can do it without thinking - when we start to think about it or get distracted by trying to do or think something else ... then whoops!!!!
It's also like golf - once a hobby of mine (well I do live in Scotland). The best advice I had was to visualise the shot you wanted to hit in your head and mentally see a replay of it - then play the shot. The brain / muscle co-ordination kicks in much better when focussed. I remember having to fight with it though - not getting distracted by seeing that beach on the right while visualising the shot - oops I thought about the beach and that's where the ball ended up.
I think when the practice really kicks in and pays off is when we mentally hit that guitar playing zone of the brain when all thoughts of the realities of life don't creep in to disturb us. Great when it happens - doubly great for me as when I've been in that zone it improves my mood and state of mind.
I also like that play the wrong note again trick - nice to have when you're on take 15 of a recording and really don't want to do a take 16.
This play the wrong note ..but then do it 3-4 times !! ................Whey Hey !! as they say in Geordieland!!
the visualistaion thing ( VB) is also pretty important
Can't recall who's quote it is but it goes something like
"All things are created twice ........first in your head, your imagination......and then in reality"
Imagine it ....do it
lyric from "Out in The Fields"
Gary Moore 1952-2011
I could probably get to the Crossroads with a 12 - 14 hour drive. But we have a big bronze statue of SRV on the banks of the river that runs through Austin and it's only 15 minutes away. I wonder if I went down there at midnight and rubbed his guitar if I would receive any special blessings?
I love the idea of playing the bad note again like you mean it. We had a saying in high tech: "If you can't fix it, feature it". I always thought that was semi-profound. I think these are closely related concepts.
I totally believe in visualization. If you can't see yourself doing it in you mind - then you probably can't do it.
Thanks for all the input and encouragement.