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Moving, moving moving...?

Post by 12bar » Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:49 pm

Hi folks,

the database software (phpbb 3.0) is outdated and no more compatible with the never version (3.1). It is possible to update manually, which would be some work and leave it mostly as it is. On the other hand, in the same time I could make a break and move to bbpress, which is the forum plugin of the wordpress system my site is running on. I may be possible to import users and posts, but not all the mods I'v made to this forum (smilies, attachments etc., mp3 player).

Right now I'm collecting pros and cons and would like to ask you, the users:
- should we move?
- should I try import the old posts or leave the old forum open for a while?
- what are the "most-wanted" addons for this forum?

pros:
- less vulnerable to hackers
- easier to maintain
- maybe more functions in the future
- cleaning it all up, getting more space

cons:
- maybe a need to register again (you could use your old nick)
- the old posts and uploads will be gone after a while (however you can down- and upload them to the new one)
- maybe less fancy functions

Right now I'm 50:50. What do you think?

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by MichaelRobinson » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:40 pm

I do not know what is best. I think it is good with the features of this system have but can not implement it in the new platform is not much else to do but to date up. I am thinking right here?

Do I understand correctly when I read your text, 12bar, to mp3 files is not possible to upload the new system? Can not load and run mp3 files, I think a lot is lost. Much revolves around what we as users upload mp3 files.

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by 12bar » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:26 pm

Sure you can upload, but I can't import the mp3 from the old system. So everyone has to pick out the ones he likes best and upload them again.

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by VikingBlues » Wed Feb 25, 2015 7:44 pm

It is a difficult one!

Rather like keeping stuff in the home, it's very easy to keep hold of so much rubbish because they could be of use sometime.

I think it would be unfair for the forum members to expect you to have to put in a whole load of hard work Gerd, just to keep things mostly as they are.

Not a problem to re-upload the better recordings. Plus if there's time to still access the old posts and save stuff that takes some of the pain away.

Difficult to be entirely clinical about this obviously as a lot of us will have an attachment to the forum as is and the posts and threads on it record elements of our growing into (hopefully) better musicians.
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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by Blindboy » Thu Feb 26, 2015 5:36 am

Wow... I do frequently search back and listen to old posts, mine and others. Some of these are preserved only on 12bar. (Some are from members no longer with us.)
As long as we can still upload music and pictures/videos... I don't want to load more work on you than you have already taken on by hosting this great forum. If it works better and makes your job easier, then I say: "Go for it!". I may transfer some posts to the new format... (Maybe a lot of posts...)
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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by 12bar » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:16 am

Upgrading from 3.0 to 3.1

Upgrading to phpBB 3.1 will render previously installed MODifications and styles unusable.
phpBB 3.1 is not compatible with 3.0 and most of the previous files will need to be removed prior to upgrading to 3.1.
This is what made me thinking of switching the software. I can upgrade to 3.1 and manually add all the mods (a lot!) to get the old environment back. If you're reading older posts regularly this seems to be the best version.
BBPress (the other one) is much more simple but misses many features. Not an easy decision.

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by MichaelRobinson » Thu Feb 26, 2015 10:04 am

12 bar ............
I do not mind my previous threads and mp3 uploads disappears. What I said, I have said and it belongs to history
Also, I have all my bad mp3 files stored here with me.

So for my part, you do not work with moving some threads and other files coming from me.

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by 12bar » Thu Feb 26, 2015 2:49 pm

OK, I gave it a try. Most things should work as before, but the menu is shortened. The css (styles) are too different. Please report any problems.

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by VikingBlues » Fri Feb 27, 2015 8:28 am

So far so good with what you've done, and no problems yet. :thumbsup:

Hope you're not having to burn the midnight oil and work through the night getting things changed. :fingerscrossed:
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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by MichaelRobinson » Fri Feb 27, 2015 9:22 am

Yes. I've just taken a look at the new system and in my eyes it looks promising. No difficulty at all to orient myself in the menus.
What is new is good.............top........ :thumbsup:

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by 12bar » Fri Feb 27, 2015 10:14 am

Most of the work is done. After experimenting with both bbpress and phpbb I thought it is easier for most members to stay with phpbb and upgrade to the new version. Except for some broken database entries (cleaned up) everything should work, most of it like before. I've deleted all members without any posts.
Let me know if you find unusual behavior (in the forum software :big_smile: ).

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by 12bar » Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:25 pm

Finally mp3 files should be displayed inline. I changed the code for the quicktime media, which is outdated and not used anymore, to mp3.

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by VikingBlues » Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:19 pm

Good work Gerd. :clap: I hope it didn't cause you too many hours of stress. :fingerscrossed:

Certainly it all seems to be working as it should with what I've looked at and done recently.
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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by MichaelRobinson » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:47 am

Gerd

Good job. Hope you can relax after this.

Michael

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by MikeL » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:50 am

Oh, that explains why things look different. I thought it was the latest iteration of Windoze Internet Exploder on my machine but now I see the changes came from your end of the wire. Whatever you're doing Gerd, thanks and keep up the good work. :clap:

Cheers!
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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by 12bar » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:29 pm

This time not Microsoft :lol:
It's just a new one with more functions.

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by HalfBlindLefty » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:49 pm

Gerd,

I happened to move through the backingtrack subforum and listened to some recodings by Chris and VB.
Was/where the MP3(3) or the backing damaged somehow ? I get strange drop out kinda noises on all of the inline tracks ?
Still ussing my trusty laptop and upgraded Internet connection so speed shouldn't be an issue.
A long time ago, in the old forum : Registered: Mon, 27 Nov 2006. Wonder were the other old members all went....

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by HalfBlindLefty » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:52 pm

Mhh, I have the same affects on other inline tracks to.
I'll check my browser and sound drivers/decoders
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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by 12bar » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:36 pm

HBL, the files were not re-coded or treated in any way. They should play as before. If you still get the problem, let me know on which songs.

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Re: Moving, moving moving...?

Post by HalfBlindLefty » Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:50 pm

new uploads with 160 Kb/s encoding work fine. testing others now
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